SUMMERS: In the last month, these revelations about these big money transactions between Harlan Crow and Justice Thomas have prompted increased calls for ethics reform at the Supreme Court. Thomas has said he grew up in poverty in Georgia, and of course, Crow grew up in a very wealthy family. His exact words were they were simpatico, even though both of these people came from very different backgrounds. He said he didn't know Thomas at the time, but he said he found that while they were on the jet together and talking, they were actually similar. And Crow, living in Dallas, offered to fly Thomas back home on his private jet. And while he was speaking with the executives, they told him that Thomas was doing a speaking engagement in Dallas. at the time, and he was talking with some executives at the National Center for Policy Analysis, which is a center-right think tank. So Harlan Crow and Clarence Thomas met about 27 years ago. What can you tell us about that relationship? How did they come to know each other? How long have they known each other? SUMMERS: The reason that we're talking about Harlan Crow today is, of course, because of his relationship with Justice Clarence Thomas. So he is very well known in the real estate world. It has, for example, holdings in residential real estate properties, commercial real estate, warehouses, student housing. HAGAN: So Crow Holdings - it's basically a real estate empire that manages about $29 billion in assets. SUMMERS: What about his company, Crow Holdings? Can you tell us about it? What does it do, and how much is it worth? But he doesn't come out publicly and speak, for example, among lawmakers or anything like that. He, you know, is a prominent figure in the wealthy social circles in Dallas, but you wouldn't necessarily hear his name. So Harlan Crow did grow up in a privileged family. And he was reported to have been one of the largest landlords in the U.S. So Harlan Crow is the son of Trammell Crow, who - you can see his name in buildings across Dallas. But beyond that, what can you tell us about Crow himself, as well as his reputation in the Dallas area community? SUMMERS: So we know that Harlan Crow is an incredibly wealthy businessman, and a lot has been written in recent weeks as well about his collections of historical artifacts, including Nazi memorabilia. She covers Texas politics and the economy for Bloomberg, and she joins me now from Dallas. But who exactly is Harlan Crow? Shelly Hagan has done some digging into Crow's background. Previous reporting by ProPublica in the last month has revealed a real estate deal and years of luxury travel that Clarence Thomas accepted but failed to disclose from Crow. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas's name is once again in the headlines with Texas real estate magnate Harlan Crow, this time over a ProPublica investigation that found Crow paid private boarding school tuition for Thomas's grandnephew.
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